Hello. Common sense should tell this newbie to sit quiet and stay out of this topic, or thread, but....
I'm not sure who's comment this was (there's been so many), but " I can't imagine what the newcomers are thinking as they read your postings in this thread. Many of them start out by thanking ISGB for existing and for having this forum, with its many contributors, and now they are getting blasted. Why?" While I don't feel entirely like we're "getting blasted", I do feel like responding very briefly to this:
I' very new, and haven't made much in the way of "good" beads yet, but I've received a lot of help here along my trials, and I have always felt welcomed by and inspired by all of the folks here, new, old, or in the middle, and I wouldn't let a rather long heated debate such as this deter me from staying here. I do, however, feel like I'm back home as a kid again, with all of us 9 children fighting, arguing, having "differences of opinion" about something; frustrating always to all involved, Mom & Dad who had to listen to us & sort it out, each of us who felt we were right, or some of us just trying to get our opinions heard, one or two just quietly taking it all in, hoping they weren't going to be grouped with the rest when Mom invariably said "knock it off all of you or I'll bang your heads together!"
Do I think, as a newbie, I should let a post like this stop me from purchasing from a vendor, or keep me away from this forum? Absolutely not! Do I think someone (Mom) should "bang all our heads together?" Absolutely not!
I have often felt that, being out here in the sticks and not having any support system in my life that could even remotely understand this glass addiction that I've acquired, I have "come back home" or "been welcomed into the family." How wonderful, I feel, that I can be even a small part of this "family." But, speaking from the experience of a "very big family", every family has its differences, opinions, styles, finances, how our kids get raised, we take liberties with each other as part of "the family" that we would not otherwise take in general, we voice opinions in a family setting that are truer than perhaps we would share in general or regular societal settings, and we emote more freely "with our family", be it gladness, sadness, anger, or joy, than we would otherwise, because, and entirely because, "we're family!"
I always wondered what a small family was like, as my immediate family, with spouses, kids, more kids, kids having kids, etc., would be like. I'll never know, and I think I subconsciously try to surround myself with what I know. A big, caring, usually kind, sometimes disagreeable, sometimes angry, always caring, family.
I personally don't mind a little heat, or heated debate, hey, I'm Irish, we're hard wired for heated debate (or is that our propensity to like Guinness, I can never remember), nor do I mind when someone reaches out for support, or shares an idea that does not "conform to the norm" or takes new shapes and directions because of thoughts from many varied personalities within "the family." I have been helped along, bolstered when I've thought this wasn't for me, cheered when someone has succeeded (sp?), felt the pain of loss, the anger of injustice, or the sorrow of despair, financial hardship, or horrible sales environment. I have also learned volumes: about sales, about customers, about technical things I never thought of that would have lead, I'm sure, to the ruination of my house, maybe even my neighborhood, that people unknown to me six months ago would be caring enough, let alone willing, to help me in my passions, or inspire me, that EDP is cool but tough to work with, that people got burned in a bulk buy recently, that some folks have suffered "glass lickers" at shows. I've laughed, and cried, all as part of this new "family" I've found.
I value everyone's opinion, maybe I don't agree, more often than not I can't offer up a better one, but I learn from every post I read. I furthermore WANT to learn from every post I read. I think I learn more about people's nature here, the fact that their achievements seem attainable when I read that they too struggle, have difficulties with finances, have pet problems, family struggles, and when they differ of opinion. I'M GLAD WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT! Being the same is no fun, and if we were all the same, say made the same beads, well there wouldn't be any need of a forum to go to talk about the different ideas, techniques, creativity that makes us all, well, "WHO WE ARE."
Wow, that was a lot of stuff for a "newbie" who should have listend to common sense and let the "elders" handle this one. I just wanted everyone to know that I feel welcomed here, I can "change the channel" or pick a new post to read if I don't like it, but sure am glad to be "part of the family", even if the family is not perfect! Big or small, they never are! Thank goodness!
My very long 2 cents worth! (gee, I think I have taken over as most long-winded poster, sorry Margi, I think you've been bumped!) [img]/forum/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]