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    Default Bravo vs Hellcat

    I need to buy a new torch that will enable me to make larger pieces such as 12-15 m lentils. I work exclusively soft glass and I like soft flames.

    I've been researching a lot and I think I am now almost decided on a Bravo or a Hellcat but I've never seen either in real life and I'd be grateful if someone could compare them based on personal experience.

    Thanks !
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    I have never used either one so am no help what so ever.

    I use a Nortel mid-range with a top mounted minor (have had it for years). I can get a full, fluffy flame from the mid-range and easily move back and forth between the minor and mid-range while working on the same piece. I got this one after watching Larry Scott use one in a class I took from him. Love it. Don't know if you found this model or have had a chance to check it out but thought I'd add my two cents.

    Good luck,
    Debby

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    I would suggest a GTT Phantom. It has a lynx in the middle then on outer ring of flame as well. It can be operated via a foot pedal as needed for extra heat. I almost all of my beads on the Lynx portion and use the phantom for extra heat as needed. Some of My beads get close to 1 1/2 inch round... I like the fact that the torch body stays cool allowing me to get in close to the bead for detail work...
    Kris Schaible
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    Debby, I also have a Mid-Range, which I have modified to replace the Minor by my Mini-CC. I need a serious upgrade for what I want to do. I need a bigger torch that will enable me to make 3-4" soft glass gathers in a reasonable time.

    Kris, I used to have a Phantom years ago and I sold it because I didn't like it. The GTT torches have flames that are too aggressive for my taste. That's why I've selected the Bravo and Hellcat. Ideally I'd love a Carlisle Black Widow but that's only feasible if you have free oxy... it guzzles 212 lpm !
    Anne Londez
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    Anne, I agree with you that the GTT torches having flame that's too aggressive. I prefer torches with less thrusting flames myself. I have a Barracuda so I'd recommend its replacement, the Bravo which is even more oxy efficient. Just make sure that the Alpha center fire doesn't have a slight reducing issue even in neutral flame. That seems to be a problem on the some of the earlier Alpha/Bravo torches according to Bethlehem...not sure if that's been fixed for good.

    Having said that, I believe Cynthia Tilker loves her Hellcat. Its fluffier flame really helps with her sculptural work.
    Hayley

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    Hummmmmm - this is interesting. But the most interesting thing is trying to guess where Anne is going that she is making such a big gather. Will be looking forward to seeing what is on your mind.

    Debby

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